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Retired Pastor, Wife Who Claim They Were Barred from Hosting Bible Study in Senior Complex File Suit
Retired pastor threatened with eviction for hosting Bible Study sues Evergreens at Smith Run apartment complex in Fredericksburg, Virginia. after the management company refused to renew his lease and threatened eviction for holding a bible study.
FOX NEWS ~ FAITH & VALUES
An elderly Virginia couple has sued the owners of a senior living apartment complex, claiming they were kicked out for hosting weekly Bible study classes.
The federal lawsuit, filed in Richmond, Va., alleges housing discrimination against Community Realty, which manages the Evergreens at Smith Run complex in Fredericksburg.
Kenneth Hauge, a retired Lutheran minister, and his wife, Liv, said they hosted their classes in the complex's community room and were threatened with eviction if they did not stop.
"The management company's hostility to religious residents violates federal law and taints Virginia's long history of religious freedom," said Lea Patterson, associate counsel for First Liberty Institute, which filed the lawsuit. "We're asking the court to hold the management company accountable for violating the Hauges' right to exercise their faith in their home and to ensure no other residents have to suffer through what the Hauges have endured."
The couple, who had lived at the facility since 2017, claims management discriminated against them by first banning everyone from saying grace before their meal and then barring them from hosting the Bible study.
The couple, who had been residents of Evergreens at Smith Run in Fredericksburg since 2017, claim the management discriminated against them by first banning everyone from saying grace before their meal and then barring them from hosting a Bible study.
Community Realty cited complaints from other residents who alleged the couple, both in their 80s, had been harassing people and pressuring them to join the Bible study. The company did not immediately return phone calls from Fox News seeking comment.
Hauge, in an interview with WTTG, a Fox affiliate in Washington, D.C., said it was all a big misunderstanding.
"This was a mixed group. Protestants of all stripes and Roman Catholics and I don't know who else. We didn't make that a point. It was open to anybody that wanted to participate and was welcome to do so," he said.
First Liberty said it had asked the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development to investigate whether Community Realty practiced religious discrimination.
Hauge said his wife tried to sort out the matter with the management company, but her efforts were futile.
“It seems to me so obvious why people should be free to express their basic convictions, their basic understanding of philosophical, theological, culturally without any limitations,” Kenneth Hauge said. “I believe we are guaranteed that right by law and I think that’s enough reason to stand our ground on it.”
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Free Exercise!
ReplyDeleteYes, that IS, indeed, the primary point implied in the article cited.
DeleteCongress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
ReplyDeleteYup, think I'll pass on the bible study thingy. But you'all have at it!
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure you understand the implications the article raised, Les. We're not attempting to establish a Bible Study Group HERE –– at least not right now –– we had hoped to prompt a discussion about the RIGHT to HAVE a Bible Study Group versus any perceived "right" there may or may not be to SUPPRESS or FORBID such a group from functioning on a given premises.
DeleteI'll be that there would be no problem with a "Quran Study"!
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DeleteI'm not sure that would be true in this particular case, AOW.
DeleteIt seems apparent that the owners of the establishment in question are firmly opposded to "RELIGION" of ANY sort.
I could be wrong, because I don't know those involved, but it looks that way from what I could see in the article.
A similar thing occurred to me in 2001. Another patient in the mental health wing wanted to sit down in the commons area and discuss the Bible with me. A Nurse told her to take her Bible back to her room, as our conversation was upsetting to the other patients in the common room. I asked the Nurse if she was kidding (it was Easter, after all). She wasn't. I protested, to no avail. I was the "crazy" one, and they were the "professionals".
ReplyDelete-FJ, "I was the "crazy" one,"
ReplyDeleteIndeed.
And if she'd have thrown down a prayer rug and begun yowling towards Mecca, you'd have the patients chased out and a marker pointing to Mecca installed.
DeleteHippocytes.
You DID mean to say HYPOCRITES, didn't you?
DeleteIf so, I might agree, though I see a NEW kind of ORTHODOXY has emerged. Where nee thought of ourselves primarily as a CHRISTIAN nation, we have now been ever-so-skillfully maneuvered by Cultural Marxists –– i.e. "progressives" ––into establishing a NEW kind of orthodoxy –– one militantly opposed ostensibly to "religion" in general, but particularly aganst CHRISTIANITY.
Marxism, of course, is ALSO a "religion," however vehemently dedicated leftists would deny it.
What IS "religion" after all, but a BELIEF SYSTEM on which life altering decisions are supposed to be predicated.
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DeleteSorry, but you meaning is still just as clear as mud.
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ReplyDeleteSorry, but WE DO NO AcCEPT REMARKS MEANT TO INSULT OR DENIGRATE OTHER BLOGGERS.
DeleteWe also do ur best to discourage IRRELEVANT comments. THIS post is about our rght to exercise rRELIGIIUS FREEDOM, it is not abut Memorial Day, although we could –– and probably should –– recognize that our men fight and died to PROTECT our right to enjoy religiius freedom without interference from "AUTHORITY."
The topic is NOT a joke.
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Thank you Franco, Free Thinke, for your subtle, and clever way of calling a spade, a spade! Yes this time you nailed it.
ReplyDeleteYes, Franco, Free Thinke, the Libtards are out of control, and renning scared..
I guess that I expected to much, but a leopard can't change its spots, and a liberal can never have a civil discussion, it’s in their character. The Progressive Nut Jobs have shown that they're willing to destroy the country before they would let a policy that is UN-wanted and has shown to be wrong for America be over-turned, because it has Obama’s name on it. Just like they'd never let a effective and successful Republican become the President of the United States. But this time President Trump has called their bluff, and showed them how a REAL President works, and how it was possible to turn the country around to the Great country it was pre Obama.
They would rather support a shut down and have Americans shut out of their own Countries treasures. This is what is in the heart of every one of these Left-wing, racist, mental cases.
Just Yesterday, I had the misfortune of attempting to debate a Douchebag, aka Progressive..
What a crock of crap these people use to defend their Racist Clown, otherwise know as their Messiah! Obama who was the worst president that this country has ever has the misfortune of having.
There are a number of conservatives here on the blogisphere whom I have a GOOD relationship with some Liberals, but these Progressives are another Animal.
This idiot was one of them. .
I got news for you dummies who blame Republicans for no matter what your ideological differences are beyond reasoning
And in my eyes their opinion is nothing more than diarrhea, bubonic plague, and impotence.
My advise to these Imbeciles is to grab their teddy bears and say goodby to the USA, and get the hell out of this country before they run it into the ground and turn it into the Shit - Hole that they always do.!
You can disagree with my politics, but don't get nasty and start with the stupid and childish name calling. Or is that just your way and style for getting you way in a debate!
I find the Liberal/Progressive blogs as a whole to be hypocritical, arrogant, self-righteous, and, worst of all, destructive of those around them. It seems as if they are willing to dictate to everyone else, but laws, rules and regulations, do not apply to them
Thank you FT for showing us what disgusting creeps they are. Obummer should have been be thrown out of office years ago.. He's showed himself to be someone willing to hurt America if he gots his way. But thank the Good Loard he’s now History! And so is his dumb-assed Wife.
I think that you have been very charitable and restrained with your stab at the Progressives and their Aisne blogs..
The difference between the old-style (Your Father’s) Liberal or Democrats and the Modern Liberal’s is simply explained with one word. Progressivism. The Progressive Socialist tyrants who have conservative terrorists in their cross hairs for several years now, are relentless and ruthless radicals and will never give it up. In their sick minds
It's a philosophy, if you can call it that, which appeals to the stupid and the lazy, which the country has unfortunately become filled with, because of the entitlements and the give always of the Liberal party. Obamacare is blatantly unconstitutional, and must be stopped. And hopefully President will put an end to it once and for all.
All, well maybe I shouldn’t say “ALL” but I’ll say most Liberals are Liars and cheats. That really is just the plain and ugly truth. As for the identity of George Whatshisname, who really gives a damn? I really actually thought that it was all done for fun. And to be honest, I still think that. But regardless if is is or not, who cares? Why is this such an issue? There are such really important issues that we should be discussing about the future of America. And instead Ms. Shaw comes here with this Bull-Shit? It’s really hard to believe that so much time is wasted in this crap.
ReplyDeleteObama is NOW says Obamacare is the law of the land . What has happen to all his other rhetoric like race relations, Gun Controls, Slavery, Abortion, , women's rights, Gay marriage, George Zimmerman, and all those other things that Obama put on the front burner to avoid speaking about BENGHAZI, and to keep BENGHAZI out of the headlines! . So ,do you libs want to go back and make Obamacare the law of the land? in history. I surely don’t.
Ms. Shaw definitely has a problem, or two, or three, and perhaps more than that.
Just for kicks, I clicked on her blog to view her history of posts. My oh My, she must have swallowed a whole case of Kool-Aid, and then ate all the packets in the box as well..